Comments for ADSL Bonding - How To and Review at http://www.automatedhome.co.uk , comment 1 to 20 out of 20 comments http://www.automatedhome.co.uk Thu, 09 Feb 2012 21:02:06 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.2 http://www.automatedhome.co.uk/Internet/ADSL-Bonding-How-To-and-Review.html#comment-1414 quote "over the last few months that's dropped to around 7-8 smilies/sad.gif" Hi Paul This is very interesting. I have 4 bonded lines for may years now. First with xifos until they seemed to disappear and stop responding to any customers. I used to get a steady 16Mb - 17Mb from them. I then moved to upstream where I would achieve similar speeds unless it was at busy times. Then when they went under I moved to Entanet via UKFSN. The speed was never as good around 12Mb - 14Mb. About October 2010 I noticed a dramatic drop to about 6Mb - 8Mb. At the same time I noticed we would lose throughput for a few minutes at various times. Even though all the lines would not lose sync. After a few emails to Jason and following all his advise he just stopped replying. I then went direct to Enta who checked all the lines and said everything appeared to be fine and they did not notice any disconnects. They then put a ping monitor in place and did see the lost throughput. Eventually telling me they could not help because I was not using a cisco router. Seems odd we both see the drop in speed around the same time? What is also strange is if I set a d/l off it will come down at 790KB - 800KB then if I remove a line and just use 3 it will stay the same. Remove another line and just use 2 again it will stay the same. It does not matter which lines either. - Justin Tue, 08 Feb 2011 22:45:01 +0100 http://www.automatedhome.co.uk/Internet/ADSL-Bonding-How-To-and-Review.html#comment-1336 Hi Grant. Yes - the company that took over the bondedcd ceased trading a while back - mine is still working OK although there's no support in any shape or form from anyone that I know of. I know UKFSN (http://www.ukfsn.org/) used to distribute a version a very long time ago - but don't know if they still do? Might be worth talking to Jason there if you're looking for a supported option. Otherwise, send me your email address and we can talk further. BTW - over the years, the downstream performance increased quite a lot - I got a peak d/l of around 15Mbps but over the last few months that's dropped to around 7-8 :( maybe something to do with the 21cn at the exchange? - Paul Thu, 06 Jan 2011 13:42:42 +0100 http://www.automatedhome.co.uk/Internet/ADSL-Bonding-How-To-and-Review.html#comment-1333 Hi Paul, Great Solution. But, I cant find the bondedcd anywhere. All sites are down. Are you able to put it somewhere on a public site for download? Again, thanks for the great tutorial. Grant - Grant Thu, 06 Jan 2011 05:03:12 +0100 http://www.automatedhome.co.uk/Internet/ADSL-Bonding-How-To-and-Review.html#comment-1317 Hello ALL, I just want to configure snmp on prochini for getting dala collection using OPenNMS.can anyone tell me how to do that and how to configure snmp on prochini to collect data from opennms server? Thanks shelly - Hedayetul Mon, 03 Jan 2011 13:00:49 +0100 http://www.automatedhome.co.uk/Internet/ADSL-Bonding-How-To-and-Review.html#comment-1257 I have tried both XRIO and Mushroom bonding devices and I can happily report that the Mushroom devices are in a different league in terms of the functionality, performance and customer support. True Mushroom is a US based company and there can be some timezone issues but as usual we find US customer service much better even though they are several thousand miles away :o) The XRIO is flaky at best. Sometimes it works OK but more often than not we have to reboot kit. As for technical support I think XRIO has to be one of the worst companies we have ever dealt with and we deal with a lot of IT companies. They will constantly tell you you need to pay for training and buy their expensive support packages and even when you do this they still have problems solving issues. Quite often they have to log in to the devices and then they usually result in firmware updates. In contrast the Mushroom device has only required one reboot in 18 months. I don't care what XRIO say speak to other users and you will find satisfaction levels are very low and most current XRIO users are larger ISP's that I suspect get huge amounts of support. - Adrian Jones Wed, 24 Nov 2010 12:10:35 +0100 http://www.automatedhome.co.uk/Internet/ADSL-Bonding-How-To-and-Review.html#comment-909 Zeroshell is providing 3g modems link load balancing - intizar57 Mon, 10 May 2010 15:48:15 +0100 http://www.automatedhome.co.uk/Internet/ADSL-Bonding-How-To-and-Review.html#comment-814 Hi does anyone know where to get the bondedcd from seams to have disappeared? Thanks Andrew - Andrew Ather;ey Thu, 18 Feb 2010 09:58:13 +0100 http://www.automatedhome.co.uk/Internet/ADSL-Bonding-How-To-and-Review.html#comment-789 I would be very interested in the gprg / 3g bonding if its possible? Anyone have any ideas? - lien Fri, 29 Jan 2010 12:46:07 +0100 http://www.automatedhome.co.uk/Internet/ADSL-Bonding-How-To-and-Review.html#comment-688 can i bond 2 gprs modem? - shetu Sun, 22 Nov 2009 15:29:31 +0100 http://www.automatedhome.co.uk/Internet/ADSL-Bonding-How-To-and-Review.html#comment-510 yes you can. try mushroon network's porcini product. - larry Fri, 24 Jul 2009 12:46:02 +0100 http://www.automatedhome.co.uk/Internet/ADSL-Bonding-How-To-and-Review.html#comment-481 hi I stay in india ( in a village) My net speed is 256 kbps I like to make live broadcast of our church event. I can arrange 4 X 256 kbps Can i bond the lines? Please guide me Thanks - Ignatius Mon, 22 Jun 2009 12:34:04 +0100 http://www.automatedhome.co.uk/Internet/ADSL-Bonding-How-To-and-Review.html#comment-476 I've managed to get dual WAN and triple WAN round robin load balancing working using dd-wrt. Using triple WAN I'm getting more than double my original ADSL download speed, but you only get this if you use a download manager for your downloads, as it creates multiple download tasks which are then split across the three ADSL lines in parallel. Solves my problem though - downloading large files faster. - Jonathan Price Sun, 14 Jun 2009 10:01:54 +0100 http://www.automatedhome.co.uk/Internet/ADSL-Bonding-How-To-and-Review.html#comment-436 Hi Chris You might want to take a look at our solution, Sharedband, we offer bonding at the IP layer using low cost commodity routers. It works well in the 21CN environment. The solution is simple, flexible, and effective. See our website www.sharedband.com, you can either buy direct from us or from one of our partners. - Richard Roberts Mon, 18 May 2009 08:03:26 +0100 http://www.automatedhome.co.uk/Internet/ADSL-Bonding-How-To-and-Review.html#comment-381 I currently implement bonded mlppp with Nildram and Cisco equipment, however if mlppp ceases after my exchange is upgraded it will cause quite a lot of problems for me. The other solution is round robin per packet load balancing, this does not increase download speed on a single download (tcp file transfer). Upload packets get sent across all lines though. I recently moved a line to BE bethere.co.uk, they offer a product with 24 meg up, 2.5 meg down for those lucky enough to have a short line to the exchange, the max I get is 8.5 meg down, 1.2 meg up. Looking at the OP's stats I would think he may be able to get the 2.5 meg upstream speed, and all for just £21.50 a month! - Chris Needham Thu, 09 Apr 2009 16:50:32 +0100 http://www.automatedhome.co.uk/Internet/ADSL-Bonding-How-To-and-Review.html#comment-290 We have an existing MLPPP (bonded) service. However it is no longer performing at it's best. The main problem is inbound bonding seems not to be actually active and we only appear to get the max speed of one line. This is in part due to the withdrawall of support for MLPPP at the exchange. Upstream still remains reasonable, but the lack of downstream bonding (evident from throughput testing) tends to indicate that our exchange no longer [fully] supports MLPPP. On top of this the MLPPP protocol 'wastes' some 5-15% of the available bandwidth. Further, when not fully working, MLPPP retries and reconnect delays add to the woes. What I have found out: BT are in the process of changing their core network (Juniper), brought about by 21C BT's upgrade to an all IP network. Here is BT's official stance: "The BT Wholesale IPStream Network does not offer a guarantee that Bonded DSL or DSL lines employing Multi-link Point to Point Protocol (MLPPP) can be supported. Whilst it may be technically possible for a Customer (ISP) to deliver Bonded DSL or MLPPP to an End User, as its not a supported product feature we have no way of guaranteeing support for Customers (ISPs) providing Bonded DSL or MLPPP." Further to this BT have implemented ERX core routers. The new ERX routers use a different architecture and operating system to the existing network equipment, and as such there are issues that are arising which could be impacting a small subset of existing ADSL subscribers with connectivity issues. Neither the new ERX routers, nor the existing network components support the use of Multilink PPP - and this remains unsupported by the network. You need to check the 21cn live date for your exchange (samknows) to get an estimate when this service/ability will cease. This tends one to think that BT has taken this stance to try and stem the loss of leased line/SDSL business to MLPPP setups. - David Barnes Mon, 16 Feb 2009 16:36:58 +0100 http://www.automatedhome.co.uk/Internet/ADSL-Bonding-How-To-and-Review.html#comment-230 @Graeme Sorry to hear you had issues with our equipment. Im surprised you say support was poor as we pride ourselves on responding quickly. I'd appreciate your emailing me with details of your issues as I'm keen to maintain quality. - Mark Rushworth Thu, 18 Dec 2008 15:17:50 +0100 http://www.automatedhome.co.uk/Internet/ADSL-Bonding-How-To-and-Review.html#comment-213 Hi Guys I have tried the solution from xrio and it does not work there support was poor as well ended up going for a cisco system works well. - Graeme Tue, 09 Dec 2008 16:26:31 +0100 http://www.automatedhome.co.uk/Internet/ADSL-Bonding-How-To-and-Review.html#comment-196 Hi Guys, just to let you know we provide "True Bonding" with our UBM devices - see www.xrio.com for more information. - Leanne Waite Sat, 22 Nov 2008 15:03:13 +0100 http://www.automatedhome.co.uk/Internet/ADSL-Bonding-How-To-and-Review.html#comment-195 Hi, I use Orange in Spain. Do you think this will also work with any other provider, or is there something that the carrier has to do on their end as well? - Sam Sadovnik Fri, 21 Nov 2008 22:50:38 +0100 http://www.automatedhome.co.uk/Internet/ADSL-Bonding-How-To-and-Review.html#comment-173 Thanks Paul for this write up . I have 2 adsl lines and this my be a great way to improve my internet connections - Trevor Sun, 09 Nov 2008 23:05:10 +0100