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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin View Post
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    Would it not be easier to create a small xAP application that ran on the Joggler that sent the file content out as an OSD message when it had changed ?
    Yes, I was wondering about that approach too - I need some kind of 1-wire to xAP gateway. HomeSeer seems to have the best support but I really don't want to go that far yet - maybe for now I can come up with something that calls digitemp and then broadcasts an xAP message in response. I'll have a look at those supporting libraries for opn-one for inspiration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin View Post
    One less user of this app then I guess ! Pretty stuck otherwise on the Joggler as it is totally Flash based .
    Just a little "by the way" for other Joggler users:
    I've had a spell running both O2 stock firmware + PMJ ("Pimp My Joggler") and Stephen Ford's Ubuntu Netbook Edition 1.3a on one of my Jogglers (see http://www.joggler.info/). I use the Joggler at the moment primarily for radio but in an ideal world would have iPlayer for Listen Again too (hence the attempt at Ubuntu). The O2 stock firmware/PMJ is definitely more stable when running over several days than the current Ubuntu build - I don't know why yet, I just find apps won't start etc. That's not to say the Ubuntu built couldn't be made stable enough, but I expect that OpenPeak/O2 have spent some time tweaking the stock Linux OS.

    Therefore, for the requirement of building a robust HA app that doesn't need tinkering with (is there such a thing?!), I think Kevin's approach of building a xAP app in Flash on the stock OS is the way to go.

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    We're almost there... just finalising some documentation so you know how to use the new features, there's a surprising number of them, so that in itself takes time... and is way more boring than coding.

    Yes.. there are still some bits still to polish off but we've left those as an exercise for the beta testers to discover ;-) We'll get these fixed promptly as maintainance updates of beta 5 rather than a longer wait till beta 6.

    You'll will have to rearrange your XML a bit (part of the beta fun) and so we're writing a little how to migrate from beta 4 to beta 5 doc to help.

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    Default Definitely looking forward to the next beta

    Looking forward to the next release, well done to Kevin and his collaborators


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    You might not be quite so 'looking forward to' when you see how many XML tag changes there are... although I know you're a dab hand with XML NotePad.

    I promise you'll have the release for the coming weekend.. and maybe before.. we're just tidying things in the XML now... basic docs completed.

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    ...the suspense! I can hardly stand it.

    Kevin, could you detail the changes made to iServer?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BodgeIT View Post
    ...the suspense! I can hardly stand it.

    Kevin, could you detail the changes made to iServer?
    Aiming for a release tonight :-)

    Changes to iServer ...

    iServer no longer acquires the main xAP port on launch so it now requires a xAP hub.

    Displays message traffic without requiring a connected client.

    Fixed a bug which could cause missing messages.

    Fixed a bug that could drop concatenated messages.

    Fixed a bug that could cause client lockout / one way traffic only.

    iServer now forwards any messages targeted specifically at a client regardless of source filters. (not wildcarded targets).

    Not yet fixed. iServer is still vulnerable to very badly misformed messages eg very old versions of Weather Display.

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    Smile Beta 5 - it's here - well as good as ...

    OK... Here's where we're at. I have available what I'll call a pre beta 5 in time for your weekend :-)

    It's unlikley to change too much before we release beta 5 officially but there are still a couple of documentation issues to tidy and I need to work on the XML example files a bit still. So if you would like this version - just drop me an email and I'll send it to you. You'll find plenty to explore including the long awaited text box /graphic elements and there's plenty of editing of any existing XML files that you have... there is a lot of new documentation too.

    I'm really encouraging people to try this version I guess and it also helps us to know just who's putting it through it's paces.

    What we're then going to do is just polish a couple more days before posting the zip to all the beta testers. I have started a new thread in the xAP forum here specifically for beta 5 comments.

    http://www.automatedhome.co.uk/vbull...ead.php?t=2854

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    Wow you have been busy and dedicated to the task. I hope the wife is still talking to you? I'd love to get a look at this beta 5 version as I believe I'm currently using beta 3. Appreciate it if you can PM the download instructions when you wake up

    Many thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon300 View Post
    Yes, I was wondering about that approach too - I need some kind of 1-wire to xAP gateway.
    The Barix Barionet has 1-wire support and some code for xAP embedded - and the xAP HAH controller - which you can create from an Orange Livebox with modified 'xAP' firmware has too. Both only cope with the DS1820 temp sensors and I believe the HAH only supports 8 sensors but I could be wrong...

    Also the Homevision controller supports 1 wire and can be xAP enabled using a bolt on controller I designed .. But that is a far more capable solution (expensive) as it includes all the extra I/O as well as a full logic automation engine and scheduler. Highly Recommended though

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    Last edited by Kevin; 2nd October 2010 at 05:42 PM. Reason: Additional info

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