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    OK great - I'm close to the next beta and I'll drop you a copy to try.

    Cheers Kevin

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    The Joggler hub and the new graphics haven't materialised yet but I'm almost ready to go with beta 4 now, likely this weekend. I stll have a few code bits and quite a lot of documentation updates to do.

    I'm slowly getting better at Flash and this new version supports loading custom external multistate button images in either SWF, JPG, GIF or PNG format as well as your own backgrounds, transparency is supported. Using external images does impact the startup time however.

    Buttons can be layed out in a grid or at any x.y position you want and can be any size (or shape) .Overlaps are supported to use larger buttons as backrounds etc. Lots of new button modes.

    You can also now create multiple pages , each with their own backgrounds and then buttons that navigate between them, these can either replace the existing page or you can popup smaller pages on top of existing ones for use in situations like Caller ID , external PIR activations or a specific lighting set within say the room page 'Kitchen' etc. Mutually exclusive button groups and pages are automatically handled for you by creating 'group' entries in the XML file.

    It's getting very capable now - and this should run on any Flash capable device and within a browser too - if you allow the security options. You can do an awful lot of customisation via the XML config file now without having to own Flash. Owning Flash will be most useful for any scripting of device interactions however. The XML config file of necessity is far more involved now but I hope still fairly easy to customise.

    At startup synchronisation occurs but any absent devices are periodically polled for a while too ensuring best validity of the state display. You can define your own xAP messages within the XML that are sent on button on/off too - useful for non BSC schema devices. BSC text devices are supported too.

    Most of the further work will be around improved graphic images and requested features as it does most of what I need now - actually much more than I originally anticipated it would be able to do . The core functionality is all there and just extra aspects liked popups that display for a fixed time etc to add. but I still need to address the level based devices (dimmers) using a popup slider and a better slider graphic. I shall probably look at supporting the xap-audio schema too - as used by SqueezeCentre etc. Drop down lists or some other selection device have been requested too.

    I need to think carefully now about the general layout and operation of the user interface - likely a set of page navigation buttons (rooms) along the bottom and some functionality buttons down the side (heating/lighting/security etc) but screen estate is at a premium on this device.

    Unfortunately I haven't sussed the sound gremlin - sounds works for a few hours/days but then go crackly - it may be a memory leak issue or even a Joggler bug... not sure.

    Arrgh - it's getting light again ZZzzz

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    Sounds like great work Kevin, can't wait to get my grubby hands on it.
    Tell me does this app need to run in an ubuntu image? I assume it does because of the flash.

    Remember with too much customisation, people get nervy and shy away.
    I'm hoping your app is easy to use out of the box and then look to delve deeper as I get the basics working.

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    This is a Flash app and therefore runs on any platform that supports Flash which is most things except the IPhone/iTouch/iPad. It runs within Flash capable browsers too if you lower the Flash security settings. I am developing on Windows (CS4).

    Currently it connects to xAP via a small Windows application (iServer) but later that will all be handled within the Joggler as someone is testing a native Joggler xAP hub. This is required because Flash can't handle UDP.

    Ubuntu is not required and the Joggler, which was the original target for this, should be running the standard 'out of the box' image - with the addition of enabling Telnet or even better SSH and SCP.

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    Having played with one of the first betas I'm looking forward to having a look at this later beta. Does seem like a very good piece of work in a short period of time.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin View Post
    The Joggler hub and the new graphics haven't materialised yet but I'm almost ready to go with beta 4 now, likely this weekend.

    .............

    Arrgh - it's getting light again ZZzzz

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    Wow, this is sounding pretty amazing now - I played with the earlier beta on my Jogglers, but had to put it on the back burner a bit as other projects became more involved..... I will need to dust them off now and focus on them again as I'm sure that they'll be a most useful addition to my xAP setup.

    I can see the huge amount of work you must have put into it too, I know from my own experience how something that you "knock up" for yourself can become a completely different animal once others start to use it.......I can see the "can you just...." emails now :-)

    Great stuff Kevin (and any others that have contributed)!


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    Delayed a bit unfortunately .. blame it on the weather and extra time ;-) didn't quite get it all finished ...

    Busy week ahead but I'll get it released as soon as possible

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    Ready when you are Kevin....and itching to go!

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    I've got some time now so working on the Beta 4. But the weekend gives me opportunities to keep adding new bits for a late Sunday release. Got the docs mostly done.

    If anyone is like me and has some spare time this weekend and wants to play earlier with the 'in progress' version drop me an email or PM and I'll send you a build now...

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    Hi Kevin

    I'm a new user to the forum, but long time lurker. I'm in the process of renovating a house, and have taken on so much useful information from the AH website in terms of wiring it up, etc, have ended up quite addicted to the idea of setting up some basic home automation - particularly energy monitoring and lighting control, at least to begin with.

    Last week I purchased a Joggler, and am just awaiting delivery of an extra USB stick so I can setup SSH, etc, and would love to try your latest update.

    I will be honest - I'm a Marketing Manager / Designer by trade, and whilst I can build PC's with my eyes shut when it comes to coding I know nothing other than some basic html, but am keen to learn. (Since my main reason for wanting to learn how to program is home automation, etc, I'd be interested in anyone's thoughts on the best language to start with...) I'm very techy in general - I am also our IT support at work, but the terminology of some of the advanced conversations on here leave me a bit behind, though with a few months of lurking I'm getting much better!

    I have on question RE this app/xAP - I know you're familiar with the AlertMe product, and I was wondering if there is any potential for the xAP that's driving this being able to control the AlertMe home plugs, etc? (Which I believe use Zigbee?) I really want to setup an automated home, but having to gut & renovate the whole house has left me pretty poor. So, I'm looking at X10 to start with but really like the AlertMe energy product - and am wondering if xAP would have the potential to 'combine' this all so that it can be controlled from one app, such as this one or an iPhone app, etc? If so I'd be ready to order the AlertMe basic energy kit and some X10 components now...

    Apologies if that's a bit of a ramble - work is manic today, and my head's a little fried! Thanks in advance

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