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    Quote Originally Posted by martynwendon View Post

    But in transmitting, that's the point I was making, when I send an xPL command, I send x10.basic and this then sends *just* the X10 RF protocol does it not? As far as I can see I don't specify any different protocol anywhere in the xPL message.

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    You didn't read my last post.
    So here is the important bit. From the link I gave you
    Some devices are compatible with the Domia Lite protocol. Commands for these devices are mapped to standard X10 house and unit codes, and so appear as X10 devices in xPL. Other devices use a proprietary HomeEasy protocol, translated to homeeasy.basic in xPL.

    Note the word Mapped. This means that they are not the same.
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    Sorry if we have made it confusing.

    The HomeEasy, BBSB and Domia Lite are different from X10.

    RFXCOM transmitter:
    The application sends X10 commands to the RFXCOM transmitter. The RFXCOM transmitter translates the X10 into other protocols depending on the protocols enabled in the transmitter.

    RFXCOM RFXmitter:
    The application sends commands to the RFXmitter in the native format.

    RFXCOM 433.92MHz receiver:
    The received packets of Domia Lite, BBSB remotes and sensors are translated in the receiver to X10 lighting format. This is also true for HomeEasy devices and remotes having address wheels. The HomeEasy packets from devices with program button have a different format and are not translated.

    RFXCOM 868.95 Visonic receiver:
    The Visonic packets are translated to X10 security format.

    Translation in the RFXCOM receivers and transmitter has been made available to make all the RF products available to Home Automation applications so that almost nothing has to be changed in the applications.

    So to answer to the subject of this thread:
    Yes, RFXCOM is fully compatible with all HomeEasy RF modules, remotes and sensors.
    Home Automation applications that can be used to operate with HomeEasy are:
    DomotiGa (Linux) http://www.domotiga.nl/
    HomeAutom8 (iPhone) http://www.homeautom8.com/
    HomeSeer (Windows) http://store.homeseer.com/store/RFXC...n-P529C94.aspx
    Housebot (Windows) http://www.housebot.com/
    xPLRFX (Windows) http://www.xplmonkey.com/rf.html
    XTension (Mac) http://www.shed.com/

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    Thanks Burt.
    It wasn't that confusing for me. But I can see where the confusion can occur.

    As a side note any chance of getting RFXCOM to work with the HouseTech/House Heat heating system.
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    Thanks Bert, that clears up the xPLRFX / RFXCom confusion - I'm using RFXCom Transmitters so I guess that I have other protocols enabled and it therefore is transmitting in all available protocols.....

    .....but that doesn't explain why I can take a HomeEasy HE302W (plug socket) or a Byron RS18 (4-way), put it into program mode, activate an X10 MS13 PIR so that it transmits an on command, and the HomeEasy HE302W or RS18 will happily turn on / off in response to the on / off from the MS13.....

    There is no software / RFXCom / xPLRFX involved here, so either the MS13 is transmitting a HomeEasy / DomiaLite protocol (unlikely?) or certain HomeEasy / Byron / DomiaLite devices do indeed understand X10 RF? Maybe I just have a few oddball units in amongst the many I have here.....I first noticed this as a side effect of attempting to program certain units since if I don't "get in quick" then inevitably a PIR will activate and inadvertently become paired with the device I'm attempting to pair with....

    My point to the original poster is still that he has nothing to lose by trying other than a few minutes of his time if it doesn't work....

    Martyn

    Quote Originally Posted by toscal View Post
    You didn't read my last post.
    So here is the important bit. From the link I gave you
    Some devices are compatible with the Domia Lite protocol. Commands for these devices are mapped to standard X10 house and unit codes, and so appear as X10 devices in xPL. Other devices use a proprietary HomeEasy protocol, translated to homeeasy.basic in xPL.

    Note the word Mapped. This means that they are not the same.

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    Can you, change the code on the MS13 and try that again but with all your the RFXCOM stuff unplugged. And see what happens.
    I now understand why you are convinced that they are similar.
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