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    Default Wiring Help Needed

    I recently installed the Loft Box system (all running perfect) to five MSWP's (2 ct100 cables and 2 cat5e to all 5) around the house.

    I have now had a BT Master line installed at node zero and want to have a network functionality and telephone points at each location. I'm getting confused as which way to go.

    Do I use one of the cat5e cables for a telephone extension (in the MSWP) ?

    Any info/help would be greatly appreciated.

    Regards

    Dave

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    Dave

    Yes, thats the normal way to do it. You use a CAT5, patched from your panel into the phone line. You can common up a few sockets on your patch panel to share the phone line...
    http://www.automatedhome.co.uk/image...oned_patch.jpg

    You then need a RJ45 - BT adaptor everywhere you are pluggin in a phone...
    http://www.automatedhome.co.uk/image...de/rj45-bt.jpg

    M.

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    Default Re: Wiring Help Needed

    Thanks for the reply.

    This may be a very daft question (but I will ask it anyway)

    If I connect the cat5e to my adsl router/hub at node 0 (which is connected to the phone line) will this provide the same results, or do I have to go the patch panel route (which looks really complex).

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    Dave

    No, you need to keep your phone sockets away from your data hub/switch/router. If you dont have a patch panel you could common the cables up using something else, like a block connector.

    However, one of the ideas of structured cabling is that it makes it easy to convert a phone point to a data point etc quickly and easily by re-patching.

    M.

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    Could you point me in the right direction for a low cost patch panel and possibly a wiring diagram.

    Many thanks for your help.

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    Quick look on eBay turns up this...

    http://tinyurl.com/dtbc7

    On the wiring side, you just need to common up all the connections, so say you need 4 extentions, take the last 5 sockets on the patch panel (1 is your input for the phone line) and connect blue to blue to blue.... etc etc.

    You'll need to make up a lead with a BT plug on one end and an RJ45 on the other to input the phone line onto the panel.

    M.

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    Finally have managed to get everything as per your info, just struggling on the wiring for the bt master socket to RJ45 Panel, dont suppose you could tell me the correct configuration?

    regards

    David

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    Have asked Katman to give the definative answer on this, stand by...



    M.

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    Quote Originally Posted by enzothedog
    Finally have managed to get everything as per your info, just struggling on the wiring for the bt master socket to RJ45 Panel, dont suppose you could tell me the correct configuration?

    regards

    David
    Hi David,

    The colour code for T586B Structured Cabling is as follows

    MAIN_COLOUR/Stripe_Colour

    1 WHITE/Orange
    2 ORANGE/Whilte
    3 WHITE/Green
    4 BLUE/White
    5 WHITE/Blue
    6 GREEN/White
    7 WHITE/Brown
    8 BROWN/White

    Standard BT Wiring colours for Phone Sockets are

    1 {GREEN/White - hardly ever connected }
    2 BLUE/White B Wire
    3 ORANGE/White Bell Wire
    4 WHITE/Orange Earth (rarely used in domestic installations)
    5 WHITE/Blue A Wire
    6 {WHITE/Green- hardly ever connected }

    By a happy coincidence the colours match with the internal wiring of RJ45-BT Adapters so the simple way to connect everything up it to pick a bank of spare sockets as in...



    ...which become the appearance of your phone line for patching to other rooms in the house.

    Remove the customer part of the faceplate on your master socket. Different types have different numbers of terminals available but they will be numbered 1-6 or if you have an ADSL faceplate you will probably only have 2,3,5.

    Using a length of CAT5 cable connect to the faceplate as follows

    2 BLUE/White
    3 ORANGE/White
    5 WHITE/Blue

    If you have terminals available for 1,4 6 then you can also connect...

    1 GREEN/White
    4 WHITE/Orange
    6 WHITE/Green

    ... but is isnt required

    At the patch panel end punch down the matching colours to your commoned sockets as per the T586B colour code and everything should work just fine.

    From then on, puting a phone anywhere is a simple matter of running a patch cord from one of your bank of "PhoneLine" sockets to the required room and plugging in an RJ45-BT adapter.

    Regards

    Keith

    www.diyha.co.uk
    www.kat5.tv

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