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Thread: What would you like to see in evohome? (have your say)

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    Quote Originally Posted by freddyq View Post
    Coming back to this thread after a while and interested to learn more about how Geofencing can be implemented using Life360. Can anyone share good/bad experiences and example scenarios?
    Also, I've not used optimisation yet so my schedule timings have all been based on the old method of estimating how far in advance I want the heating turning on in each zone and went to switch it off. I am now going to enable optimisation but can someone please confirm my understanding that with optimisation turned on, the time I set in the schedule for heating to start should be the actual time I expect to be in that zone from? And what about stop time? Should that be actual time I expect to leave the zone?

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    If you want a zone to be 20C from 6am to 7pm. Set the schedule to 6am to 7pm and let Optimization figure out how long before it needs to start and finish to achieve that schedule.

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    OK thanks - that's clear. I think I just got myself confused having used the old method of setting schedule times!

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    Actually back to the topic on this thread. Honeywell, PLEASE bring back per zone optimisation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bruce_miranda View Post
    honeywell, please bring back per zone optimisation.
    yes please!!!!

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    So been off this thread for a while so after 2 years since starting it what are the actual results that have been implemented?

    Big thanks to @Rameses for partaking and staying tuned in on this.

    When I first got the Evohome system it was state of the art, best thing since sliced bread but I fear it is being caught up with the new boys in town with greater flexibility and more importantly, better home automation integration, particularly in Europe where we don't even get some of the stuff the USA have had for years!

    I'm giving Evohome another 6 months to catch up or it is getting replaced with something more advanced or at least, at the same level but more friendly from an integration perspective and with Global baseline products.

    When Evohome security came out, I was so disappointed in some of the products - particularly the camera (I mean, 640 x 352 resolution photo only camera in 2017, WTF??) and other limitations that I've pretty much scrapped the idea of using it as an integrated home product. This is affecting my Evohome perception specifically and Honeywell in general.

    It would be nice to get back to the top of the game Honeywell, please at least keep the communications coming.

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    I would be willing to purchase a new controller if that is what it took to 'upgrade' the system. I can't see that being insurmountable a reason not to bring in new features and functionality and yet still maintain backward compatibility with the valves & relays - it is after just ones and zeroes comms between them and the controller.
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    Evohome might be behind the curve visually (the TRVs aren't as stylish as some of the competitors, the controller is a bit clunky, and the app isn't best of breed). But in terms of functionality I don't think there's anything on the market that can touch it. Others are catching up, and fast. But nobody else offers the same level of comfort and control.

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    Not really worth starting a thread of its own for, but I've just discovered a bug in the hot water override function that I thought I'd alert folks (and Honeywell) to.

    I am doing some work to our hot water cylinder at the moment that has required it to be drained down for a couple of days (don't ask!) and of course while this occurs I want my hot water schedule completely off. So I set a "permanent" override for hot water to be off.

    I then discovered that if I put the controller into away mode then back into any other mode my "permanent" off override for hot water is cancelled and the schedule resumes and tries to turn my hot water back on. Huh ??

    In my case it won't actually cause any damage to have the heating coils in the cylinder get hot when there is no water in there but it would cause the boiler to run constantly at its flow temperature set point to try to heat up hot water - which can't happen as there is no water between the coils and the sensor...

    This is inconsistent with the behaviour of permanent overrides for heating zones - if you set a permanent override for a heating zone then whilst the off quick action will force the zone to 5 degrees, when you cancel the off action the permanent override returns and the schedule is NOT resumed for the zone.

    So for a permanent hot water override I would expect that if I say I want my hot water off permanently it should stay off permanently until I say otherwise, and not resume the normal schedule just because I pressed away when I left the house and cancelled away when I get back... permanent should mean permanent until the permanent override is explicitly cancelled.

    Hopefully someone somewhere is adding that to their bug todo list.
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    Hi - which would you prefer? Your quick action to leave your previous manual instruction alone across the entire system? or the quick action to be holistic and act the same away across the entire system?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rameses View Post
    Hi - which would you prefer? Your quick action to leave your previous manual instruction alone across the entire system? or the quick action to be holistic and act the same away across the entire system?
    I don't quite follow your question. I think the right thing for it to do would be to be consistent with how permanent overrides in heating zones are handled.

    Whilst the away quick action temporarily "overrides the override" of a heating zone, when away is cancelled the previously set permanent override is put back in force. (Timed overrides are not) This seems to be reasonable behaviour.

    This is not the case with a hot water "permanent" override where it will be cancelled by toggling away. None of the other quick actions being toggled cancels a permanent hot water override either.

    I think its reasonable to expect that if I explicitly go into hot water, set it to OFF (or ON for that matter) and choose permanent override, (not timed override) that it will remain this way until I explicitly cancel the permanent override. It's reasonable for away to temporarily override the override to OFF (if the permanent override choice had been ON) however when away is cancelled the permanent override should go back to what it was like the heating ones do.

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