Evohome, binding three BDR91s

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  • John Cooper
    Automated Home Jr Member
    • Oct 2015
    • 15

    Evohome, binding three BDR91s

    I have a boiler with two heating circuits, one for heating and one for hot water, both pumped.

    When I installed the DHW it prompted me to bind the tank sensor, then the relay which I have connected to the HW pump, and the boiler relay.

    When the tank sensor calls for heat the boiler fires and the HW pump runs.

    I have bound the radiators HR92s but I don't see where I can bind the relay for the heating pump. I think the boiler relay closes when they call for heat.

    Have I missed a stage where I should have told the controller that there is a pump/valve for both DHW and CH?

    The installation started out as an Evohomeshop "Honeywell evohome Wi-Fi Connected Value Pack A Item Number 75" which is a Connected Thermostat Pack plus a Hot Water Kit and 8 rad stats, I purchased the third relay separately.

    Thank you for any help
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    John Cooper
  • The EVOHOME Shop
    Site Sponsor
    • Dec 2014
    • 483

    #2
    Originally posted by John Cooper View Post
    I have a boiler with two heating circuits, one for heating and one for hot water, both pumped.

    When I installed the DHW it prompted me to bind the tank sensor, then the relay which I have connected to the HW pump, and the boiler relay.

    When the tank sensor calls for heat the boiler fires and the HW pump runs.

    I have bound the radiators HR92s but I don't see where I can bind the relay for the heating pump. I think the boiler relay closes when they call for heat.

    Have I missed a stage where I should have told the controller that there is a pump/valve for both DHW and CH?

    The installation started out as an Evohomeshop "Honeywell evohome Wi-Fi Connected Value Pack A Item Number 75" which is a Connected Thermostat Pack plus a Hot Water Kit and 8 rad stats, I purchased the third relay separately.

    Thank you for any help
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    John Cooper
    Hi John,

    Give me a call in the morning from 8:30am and I will go through this with you.

    Kind regards,

    Richard

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    • Fursty Ferret
      Automated Home Sr Member
      • Oct 2014
      • 84

      #3
      Hi John - it's a bit unintuitive - go to the installer settings menu, then system devices, then stored hot water. Go through the process there and instead of "Hot water only" pick "2/3 way valve" instead. This will prompt you to bind the sensor, hot water BDR91, and heating valve. It sounds like you've already bound your boiler relay.

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      • top brake
        Automated Home Legend
        • Feb 2015
        • 837

        #4
        I am afraid a three relay system is not possible. The pump should be connected to the boiler relay or if you have an s plan it should be connected to the heating relay. Have a look at the example system schematics in the appendix of the installation guide
        I work for Resideo, posts are personal and my own views.

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        • John Cooper
          Automated Home Jr Member
          • Oct 2015
          • 15

          #5
          Originally posted by top brake View Post
          I am afraid a three relay system is not possible. The pump should be connected to the boiler relay or if you have an s plan it should be connected to the heating relay. Have a look at the example system schematics in the appendix of the installation guide
          Oh yes you can. Thanks to Richard of EVOHOME Shop for explaining it, and to Fursty Ferret. I am now firing on all cylinders.

          The Stored Hot Water setup covers the CH and HW valves or pumps, the boiler is bound separately.

          The trouble is my configuration is not S plan or Y plan or Z plan, but three discrete items. There is no example in the appendix to cover it.
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          John Cooper

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          • top brake
            Automated Home Legend
            • Feb 2015
            • 837

            #6
            Originally posted by John Cooper View Post
            Oh yes you can. Thanks to Richard of EVOHOME Shop for explaining it, and to Fursty Ferret. I am now firing on all cylinders.

            The Stored Hot Water setup covers the CH and HW valves or pumps, the boiler is bound separately.

            The trouble is my configuration is not S plan or Y plan or Z plan, but three discrete items. There is no example in the appendix to cover it.
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            John Cooper
            Incorrect Wireless binding between wireless devices.
            Binding (the partnership signal between wireless devices)
            is an essential part of any wireless system. Faults are
            often rectified by investigating
            how these bindings are set up
            in the system you are installing.
            1. Double binding of the boiler
            wireless relay (receiver) or
            the relay used to switch the
            zone valve in a sundial application.
            This most commonly results in red lights on the relays
            and communications errors on the evohome controller
            screen. Please refer to the installation guide to ensure
            that you have the correct bindings set up. If in doubt
            please follow the guided configuration screen and
            select Stored Hot Water Configuration and rebind the
            heating and hot water relays.
            2. Binding a boiler relay along with both sundial relays.
            These cannot exist in the same evohome system and
            will result in random boiler firing. Figure 4 on page 83
            of the installation guide refers. If the system has been
            configured with both hot water and heating relays and
            a boiler relay, the boiler relay can be deleted from the
            System Parameters menu.
            I work for Resideo, posts are personal and my own views.

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            • John Cooper
              Automated Home Jr Member
              • Oct 2015
              • 15

              #7
              Are you saying my installation is incorrectly set up?
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              John Cooper

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              • top brake
                Automated Home Legend
                • Feb 2015
                • 837

                #8
                Originally posted by John Cooper View Post
                Are you saying my installation is incorrectly set up?
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                John Cooper
                Hi John

                Please re-read my previous posts, thanks
                I work for Resideo, posts are personal and my own views.

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