A question, more for our Honeywell forum users really. It is rumoured Apple are to release an updated version of HomeKit very soon (late May or June) so that it is an app in its own right and presumably that it reduces the need for lots and lots of different apps all operating things around the house. Is Evohome going to be able to work with HomeKit or is that a question Honeywell employees are not permitted to answer?
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Two years ago they seemed to be, nothing since then, though
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Originally posted by G4RHL View PostA question, more for our Honeywell forum users really. It is rumoured Apple are to release an updated version of HomeKit very soon (late May or June) so that it is an app in its own right and presumably that it reduces the need for lots and lots of different apps all operating things around the house. Is Evohome going to be able to work with HomeKit or is that a question Honeywell employees are not permitted to answer?
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Originally posted by WiteWulf View PostTwo years ago they seemed to be, nothing since then, though
https://twitter.com/honeywell_home/s...01064645058560
Each device produced for the Homekit requires an Apple ID chip and as far as I know evohome doesn't have one - yet lol!
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There's no cloud level integration like there is with IFTTT or SmartThings. You'd need to have a device in your home which, like Richard says, contains an MFi processor chip, and which can also receive commands from other devices on the local wireless network (the Apple side all tuns off an Apple TV box). As far as I'm aware the current Evohome controller has / can do neither.
The easiest thing Honeywell could do would be to build/sell an external box which 'talks' MFi wifi or Bluetooth, and which communicates with the Evohome system much like an HGI80 does (although perhaps with added security!)
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Originally posted by paulockenden View Post
The easiest thing Honeywell could do would be to build/sell an external box which 'talks' MFi wifi or Bluetooth, and which communicates with the Evohome system much like an HGI80 does (although perhaps with added security!)
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I'm sure that when the new controller was designed the requirement for an MFi chip hadn't been announced by Apple. I think that only happened about a year ago. So it's not Honeywell you should be beating up over this silly requirement, it's Apple.
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[Update - less than a year - July 2015].Last edited by paulockenden; 11 May 2016, 09:31 AM.
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Just got a response from them via Twitter:
no_homekit_evohome.jpg
Not what I was hoping for, but no shocker...
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Originally posted by paulockenden View PostI'm sure that when the new controller was designed the requirement for an MFi chip hadn't been announced by Apple. I think that only happened about a year ago. So it's not Honeywell you should be beating up over this silly requirement, it's Apple.
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[Update - less than a year - July 2015].
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Oh, don't get me started on Apple! I love Apple products, have done for years, but their restrictive practice re. chips in devices that work with their kit and certification of Bluetooth devices and similar is just a money-making scheme.
/rant
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Originally posted by G4RHL View PostAm not convinced.
Big hoo-ha when Apple dropped the bombshell in July last year, lots of manufacturers up in arms.
Evohome Wi-Fi had launched the previous month.
So I think you can get down off the grumpy step. And possibly apologise to Honeywell too!
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Originally posted by WiteWulf View PostOh, don't get me started on Apple! I love Apple products, have done for years, but their restrictive practice re. chips in devices that work with their kit and certification of Bluetooth devices and similar is just a money-making scheme.
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Originally posted by paulockenden View PostNow that I Do agree with! Even lightning cables have to have a chip in them!
Grumbling about this requirement I do agree with, especially when rumours are the next generation iPhone will not even have a 3.5mm headphone socket, requiring a lightning adaptor for standard headphones...
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Originally posted by DBMandrake View PostThe nature of the lighting interface (multiplexed pins) makes it impossible to make one without some sort of chip, however what I think you're grumbling about is that the chip also provides cryptographic "authentication" to the iDevice, without which communication won't be accepted. And that authentication key is per hardware manufacturer and must be licensed from Apple.
Grumbling about this requirement I do agree with, especially when rumours are the next generation iPhone will not even have a 3.5mm headphone socket, requiring a lightning adaptor for standard headphones...
Anways, we're getting waaaay off topic here, so I'll get off my soapbox
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If you think Lightning is just an over expensive USB-like interface you need to read the technical specs.
It can do vastly more than USB, even OTG USB. For example can you output a full HD HDMI signal over USB ? Nope... You can with lightning.
It is not just a method of connecting to a USB host such as a PC.
The technology behind the lightning interface is actually pretty neat and it is very flexible and powerful. It's just the mandatory "authentication" that I object to, which requires licensing to do legally.Last edited by DBMandrake; 11 May 2016, 01:09 PM.
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