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    Default Evohome Apple Home Kit - A Fantasy?

    I invested in the Evohome setup a year or so ago, (just before home kit was announced), but I'm a massive fanboy of Apple (or any other one-system fits all) so I've started looking at options for a single all-compatible solution for my home and I must say, I'm not that impressed by what's around for the non-super-technical, there is no real direction one can go for control that doesn't require several Apps and I have a passionate dislike for products that are plug and play like wifi plug controllers. I want my home to look smart as well as be smart so if it isn't hidden, I'm not interested.

    Anyway, my specific question relating to heating. With the Evohome not being compatible due to a lack of Apple Home Kit chip, is there an alternative controller from Honeywell that can control the TRVs I have (Lyric?) or are Honeywell likely to produce another controller that can be a hot swap for the non Home Kit version do you think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fireblade69 View Post
    I invested in the Evohome setup a year or so ago, (just before home kit was announced), but I'm a massive fanboy of Apple (or any other one-system fits all) so I've started looking at options for a single all-compatible solution for my home and I must say, I'm not that impressed by what's around for the non-super-technical, there is no real direction one can go for control that doesn't require several Apps and I have a passionate dislike for products that are plug and play like wifi plug controllers. I want my home to look smart as well as be smart so if it isn't hidden, I'm not interested.

    Anyway, my specific question relating to heating. With the Evohome not being compatible due to a lack of Apple Home Kit chip, is there an alternative controller from Honeywell that can control the TRVs I have (Lyric?) or are Honeywell likely to produce another controller that can be a hot swap for the non Home Kit version do you think?
    Apple is being very selective with the thermostats that it offers as part of homekit


    Apple is being very selective with the thermostats that it offers as part of homekit

    The new Honeywell Lyric T6 series http://getconnected.honeywell.com/en/lyric-t6?src=home
    was launched yesterday

    This will fully integrate with homekit and is a single zone thermostat solution so will control boiler or zone valve but not wireless TRV

    You can have multiple Thermostats in one App location and in one homekit location.
    When you use Siri, "put the temperature to 15 degrees"… all stats will go to 15 degrees.
    When you call them by the thermostat name it works individually…
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    Thanks for the tip.

    I definitely don't want 8 Lyrics in the house and certainly not with the redundancy of the rad controllers. If the Lyric was actually on the radiators then great but it isn't.

    Intelligent home is a great idea but the problem is we've got stupid suppliers that don't really understand. People want to integrate their home into one solution, they don't want to be herded down the road to purchase from one supplier though!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fireblade69 View Post
    Thanks for the tip.

    I definitely don't want 8 Lyrics in the house and certainly not with the redundancy of the rad controllers. If the Lyric was actually on the radiators then great but it isn't.

    Intelligent home is a great idea but the problem is we've got stupid suppliers that don't really understand. People want to integrate their home into one solution, they don't want to be herded down the road to purchase from one supplier though!
    In that case it sounds like you might be better off looking at Amazon echo instead. This is compatible with Honeywell TCC App and both android and iOS devices.
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    I think that is what I'll try, hopefully a replacement Apple Home Kit compatible (and Android/Open Source for that matter - let's be agnostic) Evohome controller will be along at some point.

    At 50 for an Echo Dot I'll certainly try it out and if it works well enough and can integrate with other stuff then excellent. For such a large and well thought of global corporation, Honeywell are not doing themselves any favours I don't think and I think they'd benefit from a bit more work on their marketing strategy and product development.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fireblade69 View Post
    I think that is what I'll try, hopefully a replacement Apple Home Kit compatible (and Android/Open Source for that matter - let's be agnostic) Evohome controller will be along at some point.

    At 50 for an Echo Dot I'll certainly try it out and if it works well enough and can integrate with other stuff then excellent. For such a large and well thought of global corporation, Honeywell are not doing themselves any favours I don't think and I think they'd benefit from a bit more work on their marketing strategy and product development.
    I think you'll need the echo itself. The echo dot is a slave unit.
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    I thought that when I first saw it but when I read the detail on it and researched it I found out it was a fully independent unit with a couple of features the Full Echo doesn't have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by top brake View Post
    I think you'll need the echo itself. The echo dot is a slave unit.
    I don't believe that's true. Dot is simply an Echo without the speaker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fireblade69 View Post
    I thought that when I first saw it but when I read the detail on it and researched it I found out it was a fully independent unit with a couple of features the Full Echo doesn't have.
    Quote Originally Posted by paulockenden View Post
    I don't believe that's true. Dot is simply an Echo without the speaker.

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    Yep very similar. The Echo dot loses the audio speaker and 100 cheaper.

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    The industry seems to at a stage where several suppliers (Apple, Samsung, Google/Nest, Amazon ...) all want to set the standard that will cover everything, but right now there doesn't seem to be a clear market leader, so connecting the technologies together using hardware and software gateways seems to be the best we can do.

    I currently have 8 hardware gateways and a handful of software gateways connecting together technologies. Technically its very ugly, but it works pretty reliably and it is the only way to get everything to work together.

    Some people are at a stage where they are happy with a bunch of different apps on their phone to do stuff, but that happiness wears off pretty quickly (I currently have apps for SONOS, Honeywell Evohome, C-Bus2 Wiser 2, Nest, LG TV Plus etc.,) but HomeSeer and HomeSeer Touch give me most of the functionality I need, Echo should provide the rest

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