Den Automation has gone titsup

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  • paulockenden
    Automated Home Legend
    • Apr 2015
    • 1719

    Den Automation has gone titsup

    According to The Register (who are usually right about these things), Den Automation has gone to the wall.

    It's a shame - the products had a lot going for them. But I'm not surprised. Wearing my PC Pro hat I asked for review samples several times, but it seems they were afraid of the products getting mainstream attention other than places that only do 'skim the surface' reviews.

    I hope someone else buys the IP, and gets the whole thing up and running again.

    P.
  • DBMandrake
    Automated Home Legend
    • Sep 2014
    • 2361

    #2
    Never heard of them before! That's a shame.

    I'm looking to replace a couple of outdoor light switches (which are inside the back porch) with smart switches that I can control with IFTTT but still have a physical button of some kind on the front as well. I see Den did one... Any recommendations of other brands that are suitable for UK switches ?

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    • paulockenden
      Automated Home Legend
      • Apr 2015
      • 1719

      #4
      They had good WAF (wife acceptance factor).

      Or husband acceptance factor for one regular forum poster.

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      • DBMandrake
        Automated Home Legend
        • Sep 2014
        • 2361

        #5
        So the alternatives now for UK wiring compatible smart light switches are......Lightwave ? and....... ??

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        • paulockenden
          Automated Home Legend
          • Apr 2015
          • 1719

          #6
          I was never happy about how Den lights witches were wired. They used Earth as Neutral.

          Other manufacturers *could* do that, but they don't. For good reason.

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          • DBMandrake
            Automated Home Legend
            • Sep 2014
            • 2361

            #7
            Yes it's a bit naughty.... however lighting circuits aren't typically RCD protected and if its just a few milliamps it's probably not an issue in practice. And what's the alternative in a light switch back box with no neutral wire, which is the case in the vast majority of UK homes ?

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            • paulockenden
              Automated Home Legend
              • Apr 2015
              • 1719

              #8
              Yeah, but Earth is there for safety. I wasn’t convinced that “there’s no alternative” was a good reason to use it for power.

              I also suspect the switches would be destroyed next time an electrical inspection is done and a Megger shoves 500V between live and earth...

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              • toscal
                Moderator
                • Oct 2005
                • 2061

                #9
                @DBMandrake have a look here.
                IF YOU CAN'T FIX IT WITH A HAMMER, YOU'VE GOT AN ELECTRICAL PROBLEM.
                Renovation Spain Blog

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