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Thread: Apparently the controller has a "Day Off with Eco Until" Quick action

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    Quote Originally Posted by bruce_miranda View Post
    I was reading through some old documentation and found that the Evohome controller seems to have a mode called "Day Off with Eco" I don't believe we can set this via the controller, but it is possible via the HGI80. Any one ever used this?
    With a lot of us working/schooling from home the controller seems to be permanently set to "Day Off" but then you cannot use "Eco" and this is why this mode caught my attention.
    I would dearly love to have Day off with Eco mode properly accessible on the controller.

    I've been pointing out the limitation of not being able to combine Day Off mode with any other mode on here for years now, in the suggestion thread, in the beta firmware thread etc but no response from Honeywell about this seemingly obvious shortcoming.

    Working from home intermittently during lockdowns Day Off mode is getting used extensively, and this makes it impossible to use the newly enhanced Eco/Boost mode. Really, Day Off mode should be separated from the other quick actions, but that's a separate debate.

    In case Honeywell is reading this there is also still a bug in the phone apps regarding Day Off mode which has been there forever. If the system is on Day Off mode the app is aware of this, however when you try to do a manual override for a zone from the app, the default end time is for todays schedule not the Day Off schedule as it should be - quite annoying...

    Should be easily fixable, assuming that the Honeywell servers know which day of the week the day off schedule is configured to be! (Defaults to Saturday, but can be changed in the controller config...)

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    Would it help, if I published the command to put the controller into "Day Off With Eco" mode? Then those with an HGI80 or similar can atleast benefit from the feature. Looking at the Domoticz, I don't think its a quick fix, to introduce the new mode, so could be a while.
    Just that from the Controller UI, there is no way of easily telling it's any different than the normal "Day Off". It's only when you look at the zone setpoints you notice they are all set to your Eco/Boost setting while in "Day Off" mode.
    The "Auto with reset" mode that I also found is less useful.

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    Feel free to publish the details - although I don't personally have anything set up that could take advantage of it.

    I haven't run Domoticz for a long time and only have a NanoCUL running receive only firmware.

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    Really time to upgrade the firmware on that NanoCUL, things have moved on quite a bit on the firmware side of things

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    Quote Originally Posted by bruce_miranda View Post
    Whole system optimisation is a wasted feature that I never use any more. It has no place in a Zoned environment. Bring back the Zoned optimisation from the V2 controllers Resideo.

    But the Smart weather boost for the Colder rooms, works quite nicely. Similar to you, I noted which rooms lost the most heat overnight and now only set those to be boosted a little.
    I agree it’s the zones that should have the optimisation unless it is something to do with a relationship with OpenTherm and/or outside sensors. An area I shall begin to explore in a week’s time with a new boiler in place. I find my rooms have the chill off them sufficient to be comfortable within 10 minutes of switch on. Optimisation just not worth it in that case.

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    I think it was quite a poor design decision to remove the per zone optimisation from Evohome. You tend to need optimisation only in the highly used rooms but forcing it on the whole house actually erodes some of the zoning / saving potential of Evohome.
    It's got nothing to do with Opentherm or outside temperature because it was there in the V2 controllers, they just did a market study of a few people and according to Resideo feedback was that per zone optimisation was too difficult for those people to understand.

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    Last night I just pushed a PR through to Domoticz to release the "Day Off With Eco" mode.
    @gordonb3 I have no idea what knock on impact that causes to the Evohome Web client. The reason I say this is although the Controller shows the mode change, there is no corresponding app mode for Day Off With Eco and the app incorrectly reads this mode as Auto. I checked the json that comes back, its shown as Auto.
    So there is no way, Domoticz users who only use the web client can use this new mode.
    On the Controller too its a little strange. The main Quick action icon displayed is the normal Day Off, however when you click the Quick action instead of returning to Auto/Normal it flips to Eco/Boost and only if you click it again it returns to Auto/Normal.
    Hope people find this useful as we seem to be in a forever Day Off situation.

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