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    Hi all, i had a new unvented cylinder fitted on Monday and the gas boiler side of things works beautifully, as does Evohome.

    However, the immersion heater doesn’t seem to act as I would expect.

    It heats the tank to around 40C (as indicated by Evohome probe, but also roughly confirmed by seeing where the cylinder stat clicks when rotated). Then it goes into a cycle of being on for a few mins, then off for a few mins etc, but with little temperature rise.

    We are having solar fitted in a few weeks, so will be planning to use the immersion to heat the water as much as possible, so want to make sure it’s working right.

    The immersion is a Thermowatt Alloy 800 3kW, with an RTS-3 thermostat. I have this set to maximum (which should be 65C according to specs).

    Some photos:

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    Here is a readout from our smart meter from 20.30 to 22.30, showing the immersion cycling repeatedly, despite cylinder temp only being ~40C:

    D61ECB55-C570-4717-B8AE-B9D7DEB28984.jpg

    Any thoughts appreciated before I call the installer back. Duff immersion thermostat perhaps?

    Thanks,
    G
    Last edited by garmcqui; 25th May 2022 at 09:59 AM.

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    My only thought is that the local temperature around the immersion is much higher than where you are measuring. As the heat dissipates to the rest of the cylinder so the immersion comes back on.

    I do find that since I moved from vented to unvented (and so a more modern design), my immersion (driven only be solar) is on for more but shorter periods.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garmcqui View Post
    Hi all, i had a new unvented cylinder fitted on Monday and the gas boiler side of things works beautifully, as does Evohome.

    However, the immersion heater doesn’t seem to act as I would expect.

    It heats the tank to around 40C (as indicated by Evohome probe, but also roughly confirmed by seeing where the cylinder stat clicks when rotated). Then it goes into a cycle of being on for a few mins, then off for a few mins etc, but with little temperature rise.

    We are having solar fitted in a few weeks, so will be planning to use the immersion to heat the water as much as possible, so want to make sure it’s working right.

    The immersion is a Thermowatt Alloy 800 3kW, with an RTS-3 thermostat. I have this set to maximum (which should be 65C according to specs).

    Some photos:

    EDFD23C0-4CA4-4F16-8385-43C281E6B7BC.jpg065E4B1F-599C-4B9E-BA2A-080B2DA25C9E.jpgDE7F8E78-597F-4199-B7E9-DC2318F5CE11.jpgF631E128-DAB6-454E-A79A-1FEF12472F41.jpg

    Here is a readout from our smart meter from 20.30 to 22.30, showing the immersion cycling repeatedly, despite cylinder temp only being ~40C:

    D61ECB55-C570-4717-B8AE-B9D7DEB28984.jpg

    Any thoughts appreciated before I call the installer back. Duff immersion thermostat perhaps?

    Thanks,
    G
    With the Glenhill tank I have, the thermostat tube is right next door to the immersion, which is a bit of a design fault really, anyway, I get a similar effect, the immersion comes on, heats the Evohome thermostat then the immersion goes off, cools down hand it repeats, the good thing is it eventually reaches an average value between the two switching regions. I’ve not found an answer yet. I have sealed the thermocouple into the tube by sealing the end with silicone and that helped a bit.

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