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  • Rameses
    Industry Expert
    • Nov 2014
    • 446

    evohome Wi-Fi

    Dear Forum

    Posting this first here in the forum. Honeywell is launching today evohome Wi-Fi. The getconnected.honeywell.com site is due for an update this afternoon - but if you want to see more details go here http://www.honeywelluk.com/Documents...20Brochure.pdf


    LONDON, Junes 1: Honeywell (NYSE: HON), the heating control specialist and one of the world’s leading thermostat and heating controls manufacturers, has today announced evohome Wi-Fi, integrating Wi-Fi connectivity into the intelligent heating system to further simplify installation. evohome Wi-Fi is available for purchase from today.

    Additionally evohome Wi-Fi has benefited from some additional improvements including an update to the external design and some internal UI changes to assist the configuration and building of the system.

    Honeywell’s evohome Wi-Fi delivers greater efficiency by using Smart Zoning and learning technologies to transform the way homes are heated. Offering wireless individual room controls to suit any lifestyle, evohome allows busy homeowners to heat only the rooms they use rather than their whole house. By upgrading from a basic timer and thermostat controls to evohome’s Smart Zoning, users can deliver up to 40% savings on heating their home[i].

    It is suitable for most conventional heating systems, with accessories sold to control underfloor heating, stored hot water and now, with the additional launch of the OpenTherm wireless relay box, evohome can provide a best in class level of control for the new OpenTherm capable boilers which are offering the highest energy savings and fast becoming prevalent in the UK.

    Krzysztof Meinicke, Portfolio Director for Honeywell’s EMEA Home Comfort & Energy Systems division said: ‘Honeywell has been committed to continuously improving our products. We’ve not only made the best smart heating system out there even better by integrating Wi-Fi, but we have also ensured evohome can support the latest boiler technologies, with the inclusion of the OpenTherm accessory. Honeywell prides itself on being at the forefront of smart home heating and evohome Wi-Fi demonstrates our commitment to staying there.’

    Honeywell evohome systems are available to buy now at an RRP of £249 (inc. VAT). For a full list of suppliers please visit http://getconnected.honeywell.com.
    getconnected.honeywell.com | I work for Honeywell. Any posts I make are purely to help if I can. Any personal views expressed are my own
  • erik
    Automated Home Guru
    • Feb 2015
    • 244

    #2
    if I understand correctly, the RFG100 gateway (wired) is now subsituted by a device with Wifi (wireless)? Or even the Wifi built into the Evotouch?

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    • Fursty Ferret
      Automated Home Sr Member
      • Oct 2014
      • 84

      #3
      WiFi is built into the controller so the gateway is redundant.

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      • The EVOHOME Shop
        Site Sponsor
        • Dec 2014
        • 483

        #4
        The evohome Wi-Fi is available to buy from us here - http://theevohomeshop.co.uk/honeywel...p921r3100.html

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        • orange
          Automated Home Guru
          • Dec 2014
          • 149

          #5
          any idea what the UI changes are and what firmware bugs are fixed ?

          will this be a simple swap out for the v2 evohome and if so what would the advantage be (apart from the external gateway) ?

          looks like it (rather annoyingly) needs a different wall mount ?

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          • HenGus
            Automated Home Legend
            • May 2014
            • 1001

            #6
            The Sonos solution then. Is HW going to offer upgrade prices to existing Evohome owners?

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            • Rameses
              Industry Expert
              • Nov 2014
              • 446

              #7
              Originally posted by orange View Post
              any idea what the UI changes are and what firmware bugs are fixed ?

              will this be a simple swap out for the v2 evohome and if so what would the advantage be (apart from the external gateway) ?

              looks like it (rather annoyingly) needs a different wall mount ?
              Not comprehensive but in summary:

              - UI changes are mainly to assist installers (users) in the binding process
              - UI changes on front screen showing optimisation process (see here for view) http://getconnected.honeywell.com/en...Fi-display.pdf)

              - It will work with all evohome components.
              - Local HR92 override now displays
              - It needs a different wall/stand mount as we have changed the mount/dock to allow for a 'one hand lift' operation, including magnets.
              - There are no changes to the algorithms or performance of the unit - as there are no identified bugs to fix in this space
              - Over the air FW update for device is upgradeable if required (for both comms and device)
              - Belgium customers benefit from enhancements from a greater level of integration of with mixing valve
              - Enhanced touchscreen / display
              - Front cover/frame - redesigned /updated - with more covers coming. . .

              The product is an improvement on the original product where improvements could be made. A single box design reducing congestion at the home router etc.

              Any existing user of evohome would not get any performance benefit from moving to this device. Hence the reason why this is not Gen 2/ v2 etc. Both receive benefits of future platform updates etc.
              Last edited by Rameses; 2 June 2015, 04:35 PM.
              getconnected.honeywell.com | I work for Honeywell. Any posts I make are purely to help if I can. Any personal views expressed are my own

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              • orange
                Automated Home Guru
                • Dec 2014
                • 149

                #8
                Originally posted by Rameses View Post
                Any existing user of evohome would not get any performance benefit from moving to this device. Hence the reason why this is not Gen 2/ v2 etc. Both receive benefits of future platform updates etc.
                have any of the features and enhancements from your thread requesting them 6 months ago been added ? (apart from local HR92 override)

                will this hr92 local overide display make it to existing evohome customers ?

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                • roydonaldson
                  Automated Home Guru
                  • Jan 2013
                  • 205

                  #9
                  What does the Optimisation panel in the bottom left of the display do ?

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                  • Rameses
                    Industry Expert
                    • Nov 2014
                    • 446

                    #10
                    Originally posted by roydonaldson View Post
                    What does the Optimisation panel in the bottom left of the display do ?
                    Turns it on and off.

                    Previously this setting was deeper inside the system, and feedback was it was hard to find. We have also put newer icons on which show whether it is start or stop, within the room zones.
                    getconnected.honeywell.com | I work for Honeywell. Any posts I make are purely to help if I can. Any personal views expressed are my own

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                    • Rameses
                      Industry Expert
                      • Nov 2014
                      • 446

                      #11
                      Originally posted by HenGus View Post
                      The Sonos solution then. Is HW going to offer upgrade prices to existing Evohome owners?
                      No there is no upgrade to existing evohome owners offered by Honeywell. existing evohome owners will still continue to received the same benefits as the Wi-Fi model with cloud infrastructure upgrades etc. As I mentioned above - this is an iterative improvement, and if you are already benefiting from existing evohome then difference is nominal. All the other investments made in evohome (Hr92, UFH etc) apart from wall mount are compatible.
                      getconnected.honeywell.com | I work for Honeywell. Any posts I make are purely to help if I can. Any personal views expressed are my own

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                      • Rameses
                        Industry Expert
                        • Nov 2014
                        • 446

                        #12
                        Originally posted by orange View Post
                        have any of the features and enhancements from your thread requesting them 6 months ago been added ? (apart from local HR92 override)

                        will this hr92 local overide display make it to existing evohome customers ?
                        The request for improvements and enhancements has been fed into R&D. As I said in the post what could be implemented was implement - in this product. Product engineering lifecycle's dictate what can and cannot be included (especially if you want to maintain reliability). The data will be used against future products, product development (inside and outside evohome) also.

                        No the local HR92 override will not make it to the existing evohome.
                        getconnected.honeywell.com | I work for Honeywell. Any posts I make are purely to help if I can. Any personal views expressed are my own

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                        • davidaj
                          Automated Home Jr Member
                          • Jan 2015
                          • 37

                          #13
                          If some of these features were put into the iOS/Android apps, it would appease existing owners. Apart from the special frequency used to communicate with the boiler relay and rad valves, a phone/tablet is far superior in capability and usability to the evohome controller. If I didn't own one already, I can buy an iPod touch or iPad Mini for less than the price of the evohome controller, and use that as a dedicated home automation controller.

                          Sonos started with their own bulky handheld controller, and migrated to iOS/Android apps, but they only started with their own controller since nothing comparable existed at the time. Going this route loses you £250 a pop on the controller (or rather the profit on this), but would probably lead to greater market share due to lower cost of entry.

                          I typically use the iOS app for all adjustments since it is usually more to hand, and quicker to use especially bulk schedule updates.

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                          • Rameses
                            Industry Expert
                            • Nov 2014
                            • 446

                            #14
                            Originally posted by davidaj View Post
                            If some of these features were put into the iOS/Android apps, it would appease existing owners. Apart from the special frequency used to communicate with the boiler relay and rad valves, a phone/tablet is far superior in capability and usability to the evohome controller. If I didn't own one already, I can buy an iPod touch or iPad Mini for less than the price of the evohome controller, and use that as a dedicated home automation controller.

                            Sonos started with their own bulky handheld controller, and migrated to iOS/Android apps, but they only started with their own controller since nothing comparable existed at the time. Going this route loses you £250 a pop on the controller (or rather the profit on this), but would probably lead to greater market share due to lower cost of entry.

                            I typically use the iOS app for all adjustments since it is usually more to hand, and quicker to use especially bulk schedule updates.
                            Davidaj

                            Good feedback and yes we are aware. The development of the app is an area where 'extras' can easily be added and there is a roadmap. The issue of having a central controller has been debated and researched a lot. evohome has to span many generations and types of users. Some who are not as leading edge as others, or simply don't want a connected solution (you would be surprised how many). Some like having both. Some like having the security, that in the event of no wireless, left phone upstairs, etc there is still that degree of control within reach. As everyone is different, user cases are different. We are optimising where we can.

                            We are constantly evaluating and finding ways to ensure users get a solution that suits them, all of which may or may not come in the future.
                            getconnected.honeywell.com | I work for Honeywell. Any posts I make are purely to help if I can. Any personal views expressed are my own

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                            • Mavis
                              Automated Home Ninja
                              • Oct 2014
                              • 322

                              #15
                              I am one of those that prefers a dedicated controller. I am struggling to source a couple of reliable Sonos version 1 controllers as they are much easier to operate than the phone apps (I have a very untechy husband).

                              My Evohome controller is on a shelf in the sitting room and I can see, for example, what temp a room is at a glance without having to open the app up.

                              I do agree though that you end up with a house cluttered with controllers and gateways so I am wishing in some respects that I had held back on my Evo until now as it would have been one less gateway.

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